Buying the War: Bill Moyers Journal

April 13, 2007 by susan

by susan
Okay, I love Bill Moyers. Maybe I'm the last person to know this, but the Bill Moyers Journal is returning to PBS, and the first segment, airing on April 25 at 9 pm (eastern time, I think, check local listing) is about how the media helped sell the lies on the run-up to the war.
If you're busy, it's Tivo time! (I don't even know how to spell it, so you think I know how to use it? I heading off to Geezer Tech right now.) More.

Here's the description from the PBS website.

"The premiere of BILL MOYERS JOURNAL, "Buying the War," explores the role of the press in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq, including how the government's claims about weapons of mass destruction and terrorist ties to Saddam Hussein were largely accepted at face value by the mainstream media and cheer-leaded by the "partisan press." The marketing of the war has been much examined, but BILL MOYERS JOURNAL looks at how key elements of the media bought into the propaganda.

"Buying the War" features interviews with Dan Rather, formerly of CBS; Tim Russert of "Meet the Press"; Bob Simon of "60 Minutes"; Walter Pincus of the Washington Post; Walter Isaacson, then president of CNN; editor at large of The New Republic and author Peter Beinart; talk show host Phil Donahue; and James Wolcott, Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel of Knight Ridder, which was acquired by the McClatchy Company in 2006. Virtually alone, Knight Ridder asked for the hard evidence to back up the president's justification of the war."

Did I mention I love Bill Moyers?

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The Barbara (not verified) | April 13, 2007 - 2:25pm

Well, then it's a love triangle. Because I love Bill Moyers, too. Even imagined him running for president at one point. And then I said to myself, "Self, why would anyone in their right mind, whose life is just as they wish it to be at traditional retirement time even consider such a bone-headed idea as running for president."

Bill Moyers is not a bonehead.

Remember: You read it here, first.


Savvy1 (not verified) | April 13, 2007 - 3:36pm

His show is on the 25th, and the 28th is national impeachment day. Wonder if the 25th will inspire more action on the 28th.
Wonder too what Susan and Barbara and poet and perhansa and Lefty think of pushing for impeachment. I read that there will be something in Minneapolis that day, canoes on a lake that spell out impeach? Don't you still have ice on your lakes?


Anonymous (not verified) | April 13, 2007 - 5:35pm

Savvy1 wonders:

Wonder too what Susan and Barbara and poet and perhansa and Lefty think of pushing for impeachment.


Poet thinks it would be a wonderful exercise in applied civics. This is predicated on the idea that it will never (a was the case with Clinton) succeed. Just the thought of the Congfress and Senate using thier time and energy on such a venture over teh next year and 9 months or so (God help us to endure that long!) almost makes me eager to pay federal income tax.

Poet has two signs he proudly displays on the back of his vehicle olne sayts "they lied to me, they lied to you, they lied to the troops" and the other says "Impeach Cheney First, then Gonzalez, then Bush" (I am tempted to add "the Pelos" to my list for taking impeachment "off the table"

As long as Bushco won't take immediate war or a first nuclear strike against iran "off the table" i don't think anyone should consider taking impeachment "off the table".

Poet's rant endeth--


perhansa (not verified) | April 14, 2007 - 9:35am

If anyone deserved impeachment, it's Bushco. Unfortunately, like Poet said, until someone or something can make the elephants in the room see that they serve at the "pleasure of the people," it wouldn't get far. We can't even get the majority needed to override a veto on the war funding. Even though I can't imagine anyone with a half a brain wanting to give these guys another penny of our money without timelines, benchmarks, consequences, and a contingency plan. On Washington Week last night the most frightening thing I heard is that the rumor in DC is that if the surge fails, there is no contigency plan. Bush is looking for a war czar to carry this thing out as long as it takes to claim some kind of "success". Reckless, feckless, incompetent, and crooked would get most people impeached, but these are unique times and the message of fear is very strong. Blowing up parliment buildings and bridges gives the Repubs more opportunity to say, "See, these are dangerous evil people and we can't lose in Iraq."

I think impeachment is always on the table. However, I fear we won't tackle other pressing issues if we're tied up in a mock impeachment. What have we gotten done in the last six years? No progress on Social Security & Medicare, can't get the minimum wage increase approved, no progress on healthcare reform or tax reform, no progress on climate change, no progress on energy policy, no future transportation policy, an army stretched to the breaking point, a national guard that is not serving the states they come from, a lack of preparedness for national/natural disasters, reduced credibility and authority in the world, no action on Darfur, Paul Wolf-a-witless is screwing up the World Bank while he's busy getting his GF a raise and a new job...need I say more? This is the blog I meant to write a while back--the real hidden costs of the war are buried among all the things that haven't gotten done or have gotten worse in the past six years.

And it started out such a nice day I'm pissed! Imagine how it feels to have this going on in your country and anyone who objects or says what we've said gets hauled away in the middle of the night and isn't heard from again. For now, it's still a great country.


Poet (not verified) | April 14, 2007 - 12:51pm

Perhensa wrote:

And it started out such a nice day I'm pissed! Imagine how it feels to have this going on in your country and anyone who objects or says what we've said gets hauled away in the middle of the night and isn't heard from again. For now, it's still a great country.


Perhensa I've been there felt that and I have two takes on what you said:

1. As long as the President refuses to negotiate in any meaningful way the current bill will be as good as a funding cut-off because it will mean nothing gets done. Even though it ain't pretty, we (those who want this Iraq war to grind to a halt) are winning.

2. The currenet crop of political "leaders" and their pronouncements reminds me of a professional wrestling match--Goofy George and Dick the Destroyer vs. Nasty Nancy and Hapless Harry. This is a no-holds barred, double elimination tag-team title match for the intergalactic title. In other words Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are behaving with all the spontaniety of a Kabuki ritual.

We need we need is Crazy Ralph and Dangerous Dennis to come charging up into the ring with folding chairs flaiing to liven up the proceedings and then we'll really have a show!


Poet (not verified) | April 13, 2007 - 5:23pm

I will be watching and taping--Moyers is one of the few exceptions to my no TV not ever, no never--well hardly ever (with appologies to Gilbert & Sullivan) rule (other exceptions are occasional presentations on Frontline and American Experience).

I suspect I will be getting something in email reminding me since I am on his list for contacts.